U.S. crude stocks fall, gasoline up again-EIA

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	Thursday, July 24, 2008 Reuters UK -- NEW YORK, July 23 (Reuters) - U.S. gasoline stocks rose above normal levels last week as demand stayed weak, while crude oil stocks dropped after a sharp decline in imports, a government report showed on Wednesday. U.S. gasoline stocks climbed 2.9 million barrels to 217.1 million barrels in the week to July 18, the Energy Information Administration reported. U.S. gasoline stocks are now above the average range for this time of year, the statistical arm of the Department of Energy said. The rise in gasoline stocks came despite a large decline in refinery utilization, which dropped 2.4 percentage points to 87.1 percent of capacity. Visit Reuters UK for full article

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CrazyQ Champion Author Washington Posts:12,738 Points:1,505,975 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 1:59:03 PM	Ignore CrazyQ Report Abuse
	Our area gas prices have fallen between 5% and 9%. In an imperfect world, nothing is going to track perfectly.
archetypical Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,182 Points:345,200 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 11:29:16 AM	Ignore archetypical Report Abuse
	Again, the money people won't let the market correct itself naturally through the laws of supply and demand. Demand decreases, so they cut back on oil imports and on refinery capacity to artificially keep prices high. How long will this be allowed to continue? At this rate we'll need to get more alternative energy out there fast because they'll never give up the windfall profits they're gouging from the working class. And to all of the "Drill more, drill here, drill now" folks, it may help to keep in mind what happens when we have a steady supply outweighing demand -- they cut the supply that reaches the public in order to keep prices high. Increasing domestic drilling will not solve the problem or provide economic relief at home. It will, however, give more money to people who are currently raping the economy so they can continue to off-shore and outsource work to other countries for cheaper goods they can sell here for higher prices due to our consistently weaker dollar. Unfortunately all it takes to get people to buy into a terrible plan is to tell them to stick it to the middle east. They aren't the ones destroying the U.S. Economy people -- Irresponsible Lenders, Big Business, Big Oil, Price Manipulation, and Speculation are doing that just fine by themselves.
zrcat Veteran Author Twin Cities Posts:384 Points:251,910 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 11:11:10 AM	Ignore zrcat Report Abuse
	To JimL1 and all the other posters that agree with him. You do not have a clue, not a clue in your tiny little brain on how the markets work. Thats okay though, thats what free speech is all about. Oh, yeh, lets contact our government officals about the problem. Just what we need, MORE government intervention. "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help"-Ronald Reagan
djhone Rookie Author Spokane Posts:24 Points:84,455 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 11:04:49 AM	Ignore djhone Report Abuse
	Ok, honestly!! can we not all agree that we need increased refinery capacity, and clearly there have been record profits recently to pay for the investment.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,264 Points:774,110 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:58:38 AM	Ignore ss70 Report Abuse
	let gas prices to go to $4.50 again the oil industry will see what is Demand Destruction.
armstrmb Champion Author Houston Posts:2,372 Points:522,645 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:45:56 AM	Ignore armstrmb Report Abuse
	Maybe this bouncing ball will go down soon.
Mahalo98 Rookie Author Georgia Posts:15 Points:51,560 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:45:22 AM	Ignore Mahalo98 Report Abuse
	It seems like all the parties are have plans to remedy the high price of oil and supply & demand market, and for all the talk the markets have begun to correct themselves (who would have thunk it). New CO2 Scrubber Opposed by Environmentalists (VIDEO !!!) Scientists at Columbia University are developing a carbon dioxide (CO2) scrubber device that removes one ton of CO2 from the air every day, says the Heartland Institute http://wordpress.com/tag/carbon-eater/
bauerboy Sophomore Author Seattle Posts:158 Points:298,760 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:42:03 AM	Ignore bauerboy Report Abuse
	This data is outdated the minute it comes out.
dls_txxs_grl All-Star Author Dallas Posts:869 Points:59,850 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:37:50 AM	Ignore dls_txxs_grl Report Abuse
	that was a good one about gravity lol' peace, jenna
Dale Jr. Champion Author Iowa Posts:8,240 Points:1,657,175 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:35:28 AM	Ignore Dale Jr. Report Abuse
	And the price of gas is falling where I'm at - $3.78.
Bannack All-Star Author Florida Posts:805 Points:144,770 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:30:19 AM	Ignore Bannack Report Abuse
	Gravity works LOL
wild3bill Sophomore Author New York Posts:191 Points:618,710 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:25:56 AM	Ignore wild3bill Report Abuse
	With the recent price dip, we fill our tanks and keep em full to the next gouge. Then we run near empty, buy just what we need until the next Dip
Sabredude Sophomore Author New York Posts:151 Points:272,045 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:25:37 AM	Ignore Sabredude Report Abuse
	keep going down!
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:2,422 Points:486,605 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:21:50 AM	Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse
	Austins prices have moved down a LITTLE bit!
DarthDadJr All-Star Author Virginia Posts:595 Points:122,720 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:21:37 AM	Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse
	JimL1 makes good points about the commodity market and speculators...unfortunately, much of the so called "speculation" is funded by pensions funds who moved money into commodities when the stock market started to decline. Speculation is only part of the whole story...world demand is rising faster than production -- that is the bigger part of the problem. Prices are dropping because demand has dropped...thus the "speculators" are unwinding their positions and forcing the price of oil to drop more. Let's be real...oil is not going to drop much below $100s and price of gas is never going below $2 again. We have to start learning to live in a world where resources, like oil, are going to be scarcer.
rivasj19 Rookie Author San Diego Posts:50 Points:15,960 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:20:30 AM	Ignore rivasj19 Report Abuse
	i see that gas prices have derease a bit in my town
amacquarrie Veteran Author Nevada Posts:445 Points:101,105 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:19:36 AM	Ignore amacquarrie Report Abuse
	hmmmm
gasie1 Champion Author Maine Posts:2,225 Points:987,260 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:19:33 AM	Ignore gasie1 Report Abuse
	Small drop in gas prices is only temporary.
dreamweaver7050 All-Star Author Louisiana Posts:918 Points:523,965 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:18:49 AM	Ignore dreamweaver7050 Report Abuse
	still waiting for price at the pump to go down
WillyG Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,541 Points:501,345 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:18:04 AM	Ignore WillyG Report Abuse
	It's a No Win situation. The demand drops, the producers lay off workers, produce less, this way the crude stock stays low, and they keep the prices up, and raise 'em some mo'
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,918 Points:537,885 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:15:31 AM	Ignore RochBear Report Abuse
	This is actually good news, Oil stock(Piles) rose even as imported oil declined. This means we Americans are conserving. this should help keep prices steady
rbdesigns All-Star Author Modesto Posts:502 Points:203,750 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:14:09 AM	Ignore rbdesigns Report Abuse
	Supply and demand! They have more supply & we are demanding less, shouldn't prices keep dropping? They will find a reason to raise them again!
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:1,002 Points:281,045 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:13:39 AM	Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse
	So, crude prices go up, station prices go up. Refinery costs go up, station prices go up. Crude prices go down, station prices go up. And, government stockpile of orude goes up, station prices go up. CAN ANYONE SAY DOWM???
JB1881 Champion Author New Mexico Posts:1,920 Points:448,085 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:12:58 AM	Ignore JB1881 Report Abuse
	The market works! Wow what a suprise! Now if the Democrats in Congress would let us drill for OUR OWN OIL WHERE EVER IT IS. The market would take notice too!
coolpado Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,107 Points:224,095 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:12:25 AM	Ignore coolpado Report Abuse
	Interesting
Dennis783 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:5,823 Points:1,166,545 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 10:07:15 AM	Ignore Dennis783 Report Abuse
	Wow, demand fell AND prices fell in the same week. Don't see that often any more!
Brn2bEvl Champion Author New York Posts:1,078 Points:227,925 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:56:34 AM	Ignore Brn2bEvl Report Abuse
	Gas will never be as low as it once was.
EXTREMESNOW Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,419 Points:355,160 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:55:31 AM	Ignore EXTREMESNOW Report Abuse
	NOT SURE IF STOCKS FALLING ARE A GOOD THING, I'M INVESTED IN THEM???
RCinNM Champion Author New Mexico Posts:4,701 Points:578,535 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:52:42 AM	Ignore RCinNM Report Abuse
	Just when the gas prices started going down around here!
masrod Champion Author Iowa Posts:28,813 Points:1,102,955 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:52:27 AM	Ignore masrod Report Abuse
	I agree with JimL1. Speculators are controlling the price. You can thank people like people like John McCain's economic advisor Phil Gram, the same guy who says we're a "nation of whiners" in a "mental recession". Gramm was one of five co-sponsors of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000[3]. One provision of the bill was referred to as the "Enron loophole" because Gramm drafted it in cooperation with lobbyists for Enron Corporation. Critics blame the provision for permitting the Enron scandal to occur.[4] At the time, Gramm's wife was on Enron's board of directors. (Gramm resigned from John McSame's campaign, but is still advising him.) Unite for Change! Obama '08!
RF4CPhantom Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,316 Points:179,500 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:47:57 AM	Ignore RF4CPhantom Report Abuse
	Very interesting~!
HockeyLady Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,504 Points:972,945 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:46:43 AM	Ignore HockeyLady Report Abuse
	keep conserving--and Drill
Brockvillian Veteran Author Ontario Posts:437 Points:277,245 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:46:02 AM	Ignore Brockvillian Report Abuse
	Right on the money JimL1. Right on the money!
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:1,173 Points:261,880 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:42:26 AM	Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse
	Jiml1 and Fred seem to be one person. A very wrong person.
10pennypincher All-Star Author St. Louis Posts:527 Points:240,050 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:42:23 AM	Ignore 10pennypincher Report Abuse
	use less and win!!
canescommuter All-Star Author Greensboro Posts:686 Points:171,430 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:41:41 AM	Ignore canescommuter Report Abuse
	Keep conserving, bring OPEC to their knees.
unclebobMO Veteran Author Missouri Posts:264 Points:172,640 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:40:07 AM	Ignore unclebobMO Report Abuse
	Wow
rod1965 All-Star Author Portland Posts:720 Points:116,180 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:39:31 AM	Ignore rod1965 Report Abuse
	Somebody translate for me. good or bad?
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,189 Points:242,200 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:38:51 AM	Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse
	I still have to wonder what kind of funny stuff Eaglev is smoking. Anyone who has not yet studied the futures markets and the manner in which the speculators control the price of the supply for only 5% of the cost of that supply has their head in the sand, is smoking funny stuff, or is listening to Rush Lamebrain and become one of his dittoHeads. I still maintain that the main part of the problem is the speculators and their ability to control the price of oil by putting up only 5% of the value of the futures contracts that they purchase. My earlier suggestion still stands: "Write your congressmen and in your own words say something like the following: If congress and Bush had the necessary fortitude they could end the oil and fuel crisis and these insane prices tomorrow. The only way to end the oil & fuel crisis is to require that speculators have to put up a higher percentage of the contracts that they purchase. It is very simple. Instead of allowing them to purchase a million dollar contract and cause its price to rise by putting up 5%, require that speculators put up something between 50 and 100%. The speculators profit would shrink, less would take the risk for smaller gain and prices would drop. Those holding current contracts would receive margin calls on them and they would have to come up with the difference or sell their contracts. Congress should do this and watch Bush veto it!!!"
FizedNH Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,374 Points:248,950 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:38:13 AM	Ignore FizedNH Report Abuse
	No kidding...
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,718 Points:875,685 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:36:49 AM	Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse
	The refiners are buying fewer barrels of expensive oil, they are using their stockpiles that cost less and the refiners are betting oil will drop soon. Oh yeah, it did.
edgarbrn Sophomore Author Charleston Posts:181 Points:343,905 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:36:19 AM	Ignore edgarbrn Report Abuse
	Why doesn't this surprise me?
The_WB Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,948 Points:524,525 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:35:22 AM	Ignore The_WB Report Abuse
	Makes no sense to me.
my3sons Champion Author New York Posts:1,816 Points:890,070 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:34:39 AM	Ignore my3sons Report Abuse
	we're using less, how did that happen?
NavyEOD Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,192 Points:476,940 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:34:15 AM	Ignore NavyEOD Report Abuse
	Even when demand is down. Should we believe this?
HiDesertPaul Veteran Author California Posts:439 Points:111,065 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:33:48 AM	Ignore HiDesertPaul Report Abuse
	LOOK WHO IS STOPPING DRILLING! DON'T VOTE FOR THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
starjacko Rookie Author Oregon Posts:66 Points:68,895 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:32:52 AM	Ignore starjacko Report Abuse
	Gas prices will stay high.
niceguytx Champion Author Houston Posts:5,928 Points:1,149,375 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:29:40 AM	Ignore niceguytx Report Abuse
	The monopoly and cartel will continue to gauge supply to meet demand.
Chazzer Champion Author Nevada Posts:8,310 Points:1,772,310 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:24:19 AM	Ignore Chazzer Report Abuse
	It's just a ploy to keep gas prices high!
eaglev Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,212 Points:376,800 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: 7/25/2008 9:22:36 AM	Ignore eaglev Report Abuse
	Speculators are not the problem. Supply and demand and control of how much gas is refined. The refineries slowed production, shorter supply so prices go back up. Don't listen to the news media, do your own study.

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